Matt Gourley Has a Muddy Voice

Kevin sits down with the prolific Matt Gourley. Matt is best known as the host and producer of shows like "Superego” and “Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend"

Together, Kevin and Matt talk about career ambition vs domestic contentment, A-list celebrity podcast colonization, and how to sustain creative work for yourself and the person across the mic from you.

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